Oh my God, Iraq is such poopie. Saudi Arabia kicks ass. SHUT THE FUCK UP! I hate all of you except for Betik. And Brad Arthur.

josh... he just happened to be the one that irritated me...

Anyone going to the Tejas party tonight?

Hey m@rc, if you're going to point out grammatical mistakes on this message board, I don't think you should only iclude the idiots from lcc b/c most of us on here don't write 100% correctly.

I'm not an economics major but... oh wait I am.

First of all, Iraq is not going to increase production for reasons already stated earlier. The big threat is that Saddam will ignite his own oil fields ala Kuwait circa 1992.

However, for the sake of argument, let's say Iraq say fuck this sweet, sweet cartel we're in and increases production. Oil prices would still continue to go up. There are many variables that go into the price of an item. Supply is a big part of that sure, but so is uncertainty. The instablity of the region right now would cause any meager increase in world supply that Iraq could produce to be nullified as far as prices are concerned.

Oh you silly fuck, you obviously are an LCC dumb shit. Why would anyone, even Iraq, hurt, not just the arbirtary "95%" in America, themselves by flooding the market? Now that's bad economics. Plus, leaving OPEC is not like leaving the girl scouts. Not only would the legal and business ramifications prevent that, but, to dumb this down for you, lets compare leaving OPEC to leaving the mafia. Iraq is in no position to do that. It's not like Iraq is the Middle Eastern super power you seem to think it is. It has enemies and fairweather friends. Iraq is on shaky terms with most of the Middle East for bringing conflict to the region, Saudi Arabia is already offering to help get rid of Saddam. And there was this little thing in the late 70's and 80's called the Iran-Iraq war. So don't think that if Iraq had this crazy idea to flood the market with its less than stellar reserves that the rest of OPEC would sit there and pick its nose. Now who's the one showing his ignorance? Dick...

Even if Iraq could change the price that much by increasing production, it would hurt them more than us and piss off all of the other OPEC nations.

Kyle...you're a dumbass...I would go into specifics, but I'm drunk and it took me 5 minutes to type this.

hey kyle... clarify this... should i blame l.c.c. or the high school you came from for not teaching you the difference between your and you're? Here... try learning something.

First off Iraq isn't exactly a model OPEC member, it sells about as much as it is allowed to (by the UN, not OPEC), and at this point also smuggles large amounts out to buy Hussein new palaces. Second, your obviously a petroleum engineer because your having trouble with your economics. When Iraq eventually starts shipping out more oil, it's unlikely that Saudi Arabia will make up for all of that increased production (add onto that the fact that at some point Venezuela will again produce at capacity). Which means there will be more oil on the market than now, and obviously, no matter where they sell the oil, that will hurt prices, thus hurting 95% of American oil companies (the other 5% or so being the huge conglomerates which may be lucky enough to get a piece of the new production). Now what else do you need clarifying?

from the NYT ...

Sarchasm - the rift between wit, and the person that doesn't get it.

Ignoranus - one who is both stpuid and an asshole.

You wrote: "First: You claim that the only proven link to Saddam is to anti-Israel terror groups. You're wrong, PIJ, Hamas, and Hezbollah are ALL anti-American terror groups as well. And his funding of those groups is well established and proven."

Unless I'm mistaken, those are all anti-Israel terrorist groups. Their anti-Americanism stems from our support of Israel.

You wrote: "Second: You claim that Osama wants Saddam dead. Never has Osama said that he wants Saddam dead. Ever. Setting your inference aside (cause I highly doubt your an expert on the subject of Muslim unity) he has, however, said that Iraqis should support Saddam's Muslim government and fight the Americans. This is proven."

He said Iraqis should support Saddam simply because it is a question of Muslim versus Americans. Gee, who do you think he would support, in the narrow scope of the U.S.-Iraq conflict? But overall, Osama views Saddam as an infidel.

You wrote: "Third: You want us to overthrow a country that allows our military to position bases, soldiers, and aircraft inside? The leadership is friendly to us. Pakistani people hate us, but the government cooperates. Saudis may hate us as well, but the government cooperates. And, while the evidence may strongly point to Saudi terrorism support, it's far from certain. ...blah blah blah...you may have had a point. But you didn't. So you don't."

So if the government cooperates with us...it's ok for their citizens to commit terrorist acts against us? 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis...but that's ok, because their government allows us a military base? Kind of wacked out reasoning, in my opinion.

You say that there "might" be Saudi terrorist support...and then dismiss that because there is no solid evidence. And yet, neither is there solid evidence of Iraq support of Al Qaeda. But you're willing to send 200,000 troops into Iraq on a hunch. What's the flavor of the week this week in the Bush Administration? Violation of UN resolutions? No that was last month. Disarmament? No wait, that was last week. Liberation? Yeah, our goal is to save the poor Iraqis. Right.

He's from LCC...cut him a little slack....on second thought, he's doesn't need it. He has a real edu-macation.

Explain exactly how the "ghost of Chris Simms" even matters when referencing BASKETBALL.

Good sir, Iraq is part of OPEC, and so their oil production is not controlled by the local government. Yes, Saudi Arabia does end up selling us more oil than Iraq, but Iraq could never "flood" the crude oil market. Although Iraq does have a lot of oil, the oil they sell us constitutes about 4% of the oil we import. It takes a lot more than that to screw 95% of American oil companies. Think before you speak when one of the webmasters happens to be a petroleum engineering major.

First off, Saudi Arabia sells us far more oil than Iraq ever has or will. Second, Opening Iraqi oilfields will HURT about 95% of American oil companies, because it will flood the market. Third, big game tomorrow, and none of you UT people are talkin any smack, whats the deal? Little over-confident? Or are you just scared the ghost of Chris Simms will haunt you in Lubbock?

interestingly enough, the first thing i noticed when i looked at the paper was one non-SF person...then i saw how many people voted and that was a real shock. it looked like about 12,000. what was the actual number? and maybe the online voting was enough to persuade people to vote.

Let's not go comparing elections for student government positions to elections for the leader of the free world.

Well Betik you are excused, and I am sorry. Its just the fact that I haven't been on in a long ass time why would he know my name. Its not like it really matter, its just minute little bull shit stuff. Which I seem to have had a lot of that lately.

Have a great weekend!!!

This year's elections have been INSANE--one ticket filing complaints against the other, the new online voting, the very annoying campaigning techniques... the election supervisory board said they've never seen anything like it re: the SF sweep. In the end, something just doesn't add up. I imagine they'll have a runoff for president anyway, and I imagine they'll watch the voting like hawks.

And SG can DO soemthing--but if things stand the way they are, we've just reelected the ass clowns who spent the year drafting anti-war resolutions. It was SG reps who drafted and pushed the DDP program and the E-Bus... they do accomplish things other than orange street signs occasionally.

Who gives a fuck. It's student government. AKA, people who do/mean nothing.

Holy Crap! Are all of the student's elections this crazy at UT or is this a one-time deal? It's like Bush/Gore or JFK/Nixon out there.

Plus, the SF Pres. candidate won pretty much exactly 50% of the vote, just enough to prevent an automatic runoff. I voted straight Envision, and I know a LOT of people were just pissed as hell with SF for the e-mail spamming... it's just odd. Couple that with the huge increase in voting... it's fishy. The Envision campaign manager says there'll be an investigation, according to the Texan.

Why can't you just admit when you're wrong rather than changing the subject to Saudi Arabia for God's sake?

First: You claim that the only proven link to Saddam is to anti-Israel terror groups. You're wrong, PIJ, Hamas, and Hezbollah are ALL anti-American terror groups as well. And his funding of those groups is well established and proven.

Second: You claim that Osama wants Saddam dead. Never has Osama said that he wants Saddam dead. Ever. Setting your inference aside (cause I highly doubt your an expert on the subject of Muslim unity) he has, however, said that Iraqis should support Saddam's Muslim government and fight the Americans. This is proven.

Third: You want us to overthrow a country that allows our military to position bases, soldiers, and aircraft inside? The leadership is friendly to us. Pakistani people hate us, but the government cooperates. Saudis may hate us as well, but the government cooperates. And, while the evidence may strongly point to Saudi terrorism support, it's far from certain. There is no proven link to any of the terror groups I listed above nor is there any harboring of terrorist groups in the country. And it seems to be certainty and proven links that you're so keen on. If you were to argue that we should overthrow Syria, you may have had a point. But you didn't. So you don't.

The Students First ticket won every category except one, an architecure representative in the assembly, I think. That's a little hard for me to believe also. I didn't vote a single Students First candidate, and I know several others who didn't.